Jared Broughton: How Makeup, Leadership and Process Define Success

Talent may open the first door, but trust is what keeps you in the room. We sit down with longtime college coach and recruiting advisor Jared Broughton (Clemson, Winthrop, Piedmont) to unpack the real separators coaches look for: high makeup, humble leadership, and a process you can stick to on your worst day. If you’ve ever wondered why some players sustain success while others fade after a hot weekend, this is your playbook.

We start by defining makeup the way coaches do—competitiveness, coachability, emotional control, maturity—and why “high makeup equals low maintenance.” Jared explains how leaders act like thermostats, not thermometers, setting the standard regardless of the scoreboard, and why humility plus work ethic is the secret sauce when your best players are also your hardest workers. We dive into servant leadership and the rare joy of celebrating a teammate’s win without comparison or ego.

From there, we turn buzzwords into behaviors. Process isn’t a slogan; it’s repeatable systems: sleep, clean gear, consistent routines, film study with intent, extra reps when no one’s watching. Jared shares the most common mistake he sees—abandoning a good plan too early—and the antidote: judge days by controllables, stay emotionally neutral, and do simple great. For families navigating recruiting, he reveals the two questions every staff asks—can this player help us win, and can we trust him—and the low-talent-cost signals that tip decisions: body language, eye contact, consistency, and coachability.

We close with a game-changing mindset: one-pitch focus. Baseball offers hours of waiting and minutes of action; the best chunk the day into present-tense moments, freeing themselves from stat-chasing and playing with more joy. Pair that with strong makeup and steady leadership, and you don’t just perform—you build a culture that lasts. If you’re ready to be more than your metrics and earn trust that compounds, press play.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Framing Makeup, Leadership, Process
• 9:20 Defining Makeup And Its Impact
• 16:45 Leadership As Daily Behavior
• 26:40 Introducing Guest Jared Broughton
• 31:20 What Coaches Mean By Makeup
• 39:30 Handling Failure With Real Confidence
• 47:40 Humility And Thermostat Leaders
• 56:20 Teaching Leadership To Talented Players
• 1:04:40 Turning Traits Into Actionable Process

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Welcome in, ladies and gentlemen, to season two, episode three of the winning mindset. I'm your co-host, Jeff Moyer, alongside host Chris Mullins. Today we're going to be talking about makeup, leadership, and process and what good players have that it what good players possess that sets them out from the rest. Chris, you know, talent gets you noticed, but these three things that we're going to talk about, makeup, leadership, and process, are going to decide really how far you go. Especially in baseball, we'll have Jared Broughton on, who spent years in the baseball industry and college baseball and now representing a high school athlete. But if you think success in baseball is just about tools, that's when I think you're going to be behind already. And I think once we hear from Jared, you know, he's lived in the dugout to recruiting. And today he's, you know, going to break down what separates, you know, the players who master the mindset from those who get stuck along the way. And, you know, makeup, leadership, and process are going to be a big part of that. So let's start there, Chris. Let's dive into these a little bit. Um, what is makeup to you? And have you seen and how have you seen good makeup make a difference in players or people?

SPEAKER_03 1:08

Yeah, definitely. Um I think, you know, when you and I kind of started talking about this and kind of figuring out the topics and and how what we wanted to discuss with Jared, you know, when we started talking about makeup and and using that as a theme, I really I started kind of pulling athletes that I've coached over the years and kind of thinking about the qualities of like those kids that I would say have good makeup, right? And and kind of you know, dissecting the really the common themes and the common trends that you see that have, you know, that that would make those kids, you know, or for you to be able to say those kids have good makeup. And you know, I think for me, like, you know, as a coach, discipline, you know, i is a is a huge thing as far as have an athlete having good makeup, right? Like, you know, is he is he is showing up doing the extra reps? Is he is he motivated? Is he you know, is he determined? Uh those are those to me are three huge makeup qualities, right? That that would allow you to say that kid has good makeup.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

Yeah, I think for me, I it boils down to three things too. When I think about makeup, I think about the things you don't see on the baseball field or the football field or you know, in the sport you're playing. When I think of makeup, and kind of going back to what you said, I'm thinking about the players that I've had and the ones that have had good makeup, they're all um, they're accountable. They're able, you can go to them and tell them the truth. Um, you know, they've got great emotional control. I think that's a lot of things, even as adults, we have to learn to kind of curb as you know our emotions because you know, sports have ups and downs. So emotional intelligence, emotional control is is really big in in guys with good makeup. And the last thing um is just being able to be coached. Some guys don't take coaching very well, but guys with good makeup do. And um, you know, those those are the three things that that really hit me when I think of um when I think of makeup and you know, kind of moving into that makeup a little more, those guys that are they're coachable, they've got emotional control, they've got the accountability piece, oftentimes those guys are gonna be the guys that grow into your leaders and have they're gonna be your leaders within the team. So let's how have you seen leadership show up in players and what does it look like day to day?

SPEAKER_03 3:36

Yeah, I you know, I think a lot with with leadership, you know, I kind of almost I almost think about that as like those are your tone centers, right? You know, I mean specifically for me is like as primarily a football kids, right? Like the leaders on my team and like what leadership looks like on the football field is is is not always it's not always your the kids who are outspoken who are the ones that always want to you know break down the huddle, who always want to talk to the you know, talk to the kids and hold each other accountable. A lot of times the leaders are out there are just simply the guys who are going, you know, going out there and they're you know and they're playing the hardest, right? It's you know, positioning and they're running the hardest, they're hitting the hardest, you know. They're you know, like my my team, the way we always do for warm-ups and stretches, we always will do a contact thrill, right? Where it's just to kind of get the adrenaline going and the blood flowing, right? And a lot of times your leaders that you see out there are, you know, those are the kids that you know they're getting you know the 10 extra reps because they're you know, because they want to keep going in there and they're setting the tone and all that. And I think I think for me, like that's what I think about most as far as like football is concerned, right, is is you know, you're a lot of times your leaders are the tone setters because of just the way that they they go out and they lead by example. But you know, you also have your vocal leaders who are the kids that are you know holding their teammates accountable to, hey, you know, you're slapping, hey, you know, you you know, you you're doing this wrong, you're doing this, you know, your attitude, your effort. And you know, I think, I think ultimately as far as like what you see it, you know, looks like day to day, you know, I think I think true leaders aren't concerned about the spotlight. I think true leaders are worrying about what you know, what happens when the spotlights on the stadium lights are on the you know, true leaders are the ones that are taking care of the day-to-day things and making sure that their teammates are taking care of what's expected of them in the day-to-day, you know, and and taking care, you know, kind of kind of going back to, you know, our last podcast with you know, with Brandon Wood talking about, you know, when they were doing math drills, right? Like those are those are the hard conditioning times, and those are the hard conditioning drills, right? And your your true leaders are the ones that are out there, they're pushing their teammates to make sure that they're preparing themselves just as much as those leaders are.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

Yeah, I think to me, leadership is behavior, man. It's how you go about everything that you're doing. You know, are you showing up early? Are you owning your mistakes? Are you leaders should call their teammates out in the right atmosphere in the right time and place? But I also think leaders need to do a good job of pulling their teammates along, you know, because a lot of times, you know, we talk when I was at Reinhardt, we talked about the 10, we had the 1080-10 in recruiting. You have 10%, 80%, and 10%. You know how your team is made up. I made a hit on this in my episode, but you've got 10% of guys that are just gonna do what they want to do. You got 80% of guys that are gonna blend in, they're just gonna, they're not gonna go above and beyond, they're not gonna be cancers, they're not gonna be problems, and you got your 10% that are your leaders. And we're we want our 10% of guys to work on pulling the other 90% and the other 10% into the 80%, if that makes sense. So, you know, pulling those guys along, holding them accountable, those all go in into leadership.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

Yeah, yeah, no, no, I I I completely agree. And I, you know, I think I think the what sticks out to me the most is you know, is the phrase daily consistencies, right? Like what are like about what are the things that are happening every single day, right? And and I think, you know, a lot of times, you know, sometimes those things that are that are supposed to happen every day, they start to get boring, right? They start to lose their their flash and the you know and their edge. But I think it's you know, I think when you think bigger picture, right? When you go from like the daily consistency things of constantly eating around, constantly working out, constantly getting drills of whatever it looks like in the sport that you're playing, right? And you, you know, they they they may they may seem you know vanilla, if you will, in the moment. But I think if you go bigger picture and you look back, right, you start to really think about and realize that there's there's a process, right? There's a process to this to this whole thing. And you know, and I think I think you know, segueing into that talking about that, right? Like, you know, you can have you know, you can you can have the right makeup and you can lead your team, but like you know for how does how does process make that stick day after day? Like, what's your opinion on that?

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Well, it's interesting because I was having a conversation with a good friend of mine today. Um, and we were talking about a college baseball team that's off to a tough start. And, you know, when you take a step back and look at where the program is now and where it was in the past, um, the difference in winning and losing is in the is in the process. But a lot of time the process isn't just about winning and losing. The process is am I wearing my team gear when I'm on the bus, when I'm going to practice? Did I, did I clean my shoes? Did I get my sleep? Did I um did I do my reps when nobody was watching? Those type of things are all part of the process of being successful. A lot of people we think the process is just how quickly can I get to, you know, my end result? But, you know, there's a lot of things you have to do along the way um in order to be successful. And, you know, a lot of times the process is made up of a lot of little things.

SPEAKER_03 8:56

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, well, why don't we do this? Let's segue a little bit. Um why don't you why don't you introduce, you know, our our guest and and kind of give a little bit of backstory, you know, don't take too much away from him, but why don't you introduce Jared to everybody and kind of give a small backstory and then we can uh we can welcome him in.

Defining Makeup And Its Impact

SPEAKER_01 9:17

Yeah. Um you know, one thing when I think about when I think about Jared, I think about a guy that's you know got a lot of qualities of of a good leader. He's got the makeup and he's he's got his process down. Um, you know, and I I think he's gonna tell us that um you can't get you can only get so far if you only have a few of them. So let's bring them in. Let's see um, you know, someone who's seen it all from his from playing college baseball to coaching college baseball to now, you know, stepping out of the dugout and building and guiding players through the recruiting process. Um, so let's hear Jared break down exactly how these traits show up in real life and how these can apply to the listeners out there. So let's bring in Jared. Uh welcome in, Jared. Uh, we are glad to have you here um to you know hear a little bit about your story. Um, I know you know one of the things that we're gonna touch on that has a lot to do with your coaching background is you know makeup leadership and process along the way. So um I know we share a lot of the same passions and meeting in the coaching world. So why don't you start with this, Jared? Tell us a little bit about yourself, tell us how you got here and you know how you got to where you are today.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

Sure, Jeff. Thanks for having me, Jeff and Chris, on the call. Um, you know, I've been involved in college baseball for the last 18 years, um, which has been a wonderful journey for me. I've been uh uh uh able to do a lot of really cool things and and be around a lot of great people in the game of baseball. Um I spent five years as a college player. I grew up in Indiana, uh played junior college baseball for two years at a school called Vincent's University and transferred out to uh University of Dayton. That's where I finished up my career in Ohio. And as soon as I was done playing, uh I got right into coaching. My whole family is teachers and coaches, and it was a very natural um you know profession for me to get into. And I spent 10 years as a college coach. Uh I spent six years at the Division III level at two different spots. Earlham College uh was my first stop in Indiana, uh, which is a small liberal arts high academic school. And I was a full-time assistant there about a month after I was done playing ball and uh spent three seasons there. Ended up coming down to the southeast at Piedmont University. That was my second stop in North Georgia, yeah, yeah. And then I spent three years at Clemson University as an assistant and one year at Winthrop University. So I got a taste of the small college level as well as uh you know, power four, mid-major, division one level. And for the last three years, after I was done coaching, uh, I still wanted to stay involved in baseball. So I started my own recruiting service called Full Count Advisors, where I represent players all over the country. I've had players from 20 different states. I've had over a hundred players that have moved on to college baseball, and uh that's what I do full time now. So it's it's my way to give back to the game that's given me so much to this point. And um, you know, like I said, it's it's been a lifelong um, you know, my entire adult life has been dedicated to college baseball and to baseball in general, and um that's kind of where where I'm at now.

SPEAKER_03 12:39

That's awesome, Jared. I I appreciate you sharing your story, man. That's uh you you've seen so many different aspects of the game, obviously, from being a player to to coaching and and now doing the recruiting. For you, as far as as far as players go, right? You know, coaches like to use the word, you know, makeup, referring to like the makeup of a player, right? When and and in regards to that, like what does makeup mean to you and and how do you relate that to both baseball and life?

SPEAKER_00 13:09

Yeah, Chris, I I get that question a lot from coaches, especially with the players that I represent in my recruiting service nowadays, is is you know, they they like the tools, they like the ability, and they try to peel back some of the layers of that player. And and digging into, you know, that that key word is makeup. You know, what what makes that player who he is? And I think makeup is who the player is when the tools aren't doing the talking. I think that's what truly makeup is. It's competitiveness, it's coachability, it's a player that has some emotional control, somebody that has some IQ, some feel for the game, uh a mature player, a player that ex again you know has toughness. You know, high makeup a lot of times equals low maintenance. And I think that that's what coaches are truly looking for, is a player that is is not gonna be um you know a problem on or off the field. And I think all of those types of you know traits of a player, whether it's their competitiveness, how coachable they are, the way they can control their emotions, all of those things that that I mentioned, I think that's what make that that's truly what a player's makeup is. And I think that goes beyond a player's ability. Um, you know, a lot of times it's easy to see a player with tools or a player that has great ability. But, you know, as we all know as coaches and and working with players, just because a player has talent doesn't mean that that guy's gonna be a winning ball player. And uh I think that there's a lot more that goes into that, and I think that's truly what you know coaches are looking for, but it's also very hard to see um on a day-in, day out basis to take some time to figure out what that makeup of the player truly is.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

Um, I don't know if there's a retweet button on here, but if there was, I would hit it. Um Jared, one of the one of the biggest key takeaways I have from that is high makeup equals low maintenance. Man, I can't tell you how much, and just from being in the coaching world, that you actually like that hits home. You know, the players that are your you know, your good kids, your good citizens, you know, thing like that. Those are the kids that have high makeup and they're low maintenance. And on the flip side of that, all those kids that give you trouble, you know, there ain't no makeup on them, you know. So um Jared, talk to us a little, talk to us a little bit about um, let's let's talk about your coaching career here and um you know, makeup you saw from you know different levels of college baseball when you played and we played, wherever you want to go with it. But how have you seen players with strong makeup handle failure and rejection differently?

Leadership As Daily Behavior

SPEAKER_00 15:43

Well, I I think the players that have strong makeup, they they have real confidence in themselves. I think that that's where makeup kind of starts from is that self-confidence piece. Um, because you know, real confidence and and then being able to compartmentalize and to change what they think, you know, kind of what success truly is, I think that that's that's the separator for me in terms of a player that can handle when things go wrong, because it's going to baseball is an extremely hard game. Um, you know, you're gonna fail more times than not. Um, but just like um, you know, Avi Gerrito talked at the uh convention the the year that he died actually passed away. It was in Anaheim. I remember him his whole speech at the ABCA convention was that baseball is the ultimate game of opportunity and not a game of failure, because failure is just part of the game. And I think that you know, that makeup piece, I think that it goes back to to you know really defining what true success is. And I think that players that are chasing hits or chasing success with stats, things like that. I think that's where that roller coaster of emotions comes in for a player like that. And I truly believe that the players that I've been around that can compartmentalize when things aren't going well, and players that can really um you know change what they think success truly is, I think that's where you know that high makeup starts to come out on a day-in, day out basis, regardless of how they're playing on a day-in, day out basis. Because we all know as players, you're not always gonna feel your best, you're not always gonna be seeing the ball, you're not always gonna be, you know, 100%. And it's can we still, you know, impact the team in a positive way? Um, and guys that are out there chasing hits or you know, this, that, or the other, those, those guys tend to get you beat over the long run, versus a group of guys that really, you know, knows knows that they're good, they have real confidence, and they're not just confident when things are going well. So I think that's what I've seen over time, Jeff, is uh, you know, players that can really, you know, define to themselves what success is on a day-in, day out basis, and you know, have realistic expectations for themselves. I think those are the guys that can really uh handle that failure um or rejection or or anything that comes with the game of baseball.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

That's that's solid, Jared. Is it and when you're talking about that, you know, I I'm kind of like you know, I'm I'm pulling out like kids that I've coached before in the past, and and and it's like you're kind of comparing everything that you're saying to those qualities and those kids. And you know, something that kind of dawned on me while when we're talking about this is it's like the kids that have all those great positive qualities as far as like having the good makeup. I think about them and I'm like, dude, those are the kids that like I want to be the leaders on my team, those are the kids that you know leave the biggest impact on with their teammates because they naturally become leaders. And you, you know, as a coach, you see that and you kind of almost try to put them on a pedestal a little bit so they realize that they need to be the leaders on the team. And let's let's dive into that leadership aspect a little bit more and talk about that specifically. Like what are what are traits that you that make someone a leader that teammates actually want to follow?

SPEAKER_00 19:07

Yeah, I think you know, for me, it reminds you know this question reminds me of a of a speech that I heard from Clint Hurdle, who um you guys probably know, uh, you know, former MLB manager. He he came and spoke to our team at Clemson. He was our keynote speaker one year, and uh we got to spend some time with him, have dinner with him. And one of the the messages that he sent to our players was there's there's two types of people there's those that are humble and those that are about to be. And I think that the leaders, it starts with humility. You have to have some humility. And I think that you know that's that's where it starts for me. On you know, a leadership quality that other players truly follow, is that it starts with humility. And I think that that's that's one thing. And to go along with humility is you gotta have the work ethic to back it up as well. I think that leaders that that have humility, and when your best players are your hardest working players, now you got something. You know, that's part of the secret sauce, in my opinion. And I also think that there's two different types of leadership there's there's a thermometer leader and a thermostat leader, where the thermometer leader only leads when the temperature is right in the room. And um, you know, when things are going well, they're able to, you know, rally up the troops, if you will, people around them. They're fun to be around. But when things aren't going well, the temperature is too low, um, they they they're not able to set the temperature of the room, which I think is truly transformational leadership, which is more of the thermostat type leader, somebody that sets the temperature of the room, no matter the situation, no matter what the scoreboard says, no matter what's gone well or bad for them over the course of the game. I think that's the type of leadership that truly, you know, gets others involved and others pulling the rope in the same direction. So that's what I always tried to preach to the players that I had in my organization, um, you know, as a coach who are now within my recruiting service when I go out and scout players. That's one thing that I try to look for is uh, you know, players that that have those types of leadership qualities and uh you know are good teammates, people that care about others. And um, you know, I know we're gonna talk about that later on in the call, uh, about just how important it is to be a servant leader. And I think when you when you start to focus on others, I think that that's truly um, you know, when you get other people around you that are your peers, uh I think that's truly what gets the boat going in the right direction for sure.

SPEAKER_03 21:37

Yeah, I I love I Clint Hurdle, his I read his book. Uh I say read. I don't read. I uh I am audiobook officially in auto, man. It's like that's all I do. Like, but his his Hurdlesms book, man, like it was it was incredible. And as soon as you said that about about you know the the the humility part, I was I remember that, and that's that that had such a lasting impact on me reading. That.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

Jared, something Clint Hurdle told he's in a coaches and scouts Bible study I'm on on Monday mornings, and um he was talking about this aspect of being humble. And the analogy used is, you know, when you're in a place of leadership like that and you have a lot of people looking at you, whether it's you know the support staff as a manager of an MLB team or you're the leader on a team, everybody's looking at you for the answer. And they're when he said the first thing that I would, if I could go back and manage again, the first thing that I would do is I would hire someone that their job was just to tell me the truth. Because every time I asked someone a question, they told me what I wanted to hear. You know, and I think that's you know, in you know, tying this back into leadership, you know, those leaders need someone to be able to tell them the truth because that's what's going to keep them humble, you know, whether that's the coaching staff or the players or you know, things like that. So um the hurdle, the hurdles and the Clint Hurdle reference really hit home. So um I think that's a good way to um, you know, kind of reflect some leadership. Um, let's talk about this. Let's talk about um, you know, all of us have coaching backgrounds. You know, we have players that have the talent, but they don't necessarily know how to lead. How do you find ways to bring leadership out of players that maybe aren't natural-born leaders?

SPEAKER_00 23:23

Well, Jeff, I think the the first mistake that coaches make is assuming talent equals leadership. I I don't necessarily think that that's that's the case sometimes. Some people just aren't born with leadership qualities. And I think that when you have talented players that you want as the coach, you want them to take a leadership role. You you have to teach them how to do that in in certain ways. And I think that you have to be direct with those types of players, you have to tell them the truth, you know, you have to give them clarity, uh, because clarity is what equals confidence, uh, in my opinion. If a player has clarity, I think that that's how they can have more confidence in themselves. And then they start to realize, well, maybe I can be in this leadership role. And I think also, too, Jeff, that sometimes players don't realize the influence that they have on their teammates when they are the most, you know, one of the more talented players. And I think you have to make sure that they understand that and that they can use that influence that they do have innately in a positive and reassuring way to people around them. So that that's kind of how I look at players that have talent, um, that maybe aren't necessarily the best, you know, quote unquote leaders on the team. However, their talent and the way that they play is very influential to their teammates. And I think that players look up to players that are that are very talented or can do things that maybe they can't do. And once you make that player aware of that and you make him aware of, you know, okay, maybe I am influencing these younger players or other players that are around me. I think that that's where you can start to build the foundation and give that kid more confidence um that he can lead in a positive way. And um, you know, it just goes back to being direct, you know, telling them the truth, having clarity. And uh, I think that's something that can be a learned trait over time for sure.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

Yeah, I think a big piece of that too, Jared, is um, you know, when you think about leadership and how much you're with your teammates, a lot of times people can be afraid to hurt their teammates' feelings by telling them the truth, what they really need to hear. And, you know, I think, you know, just listen go thinking back over my coaching career, like the good leaders weren't afraid to tell their teammates the truth, no matter what it meant for their for their teammate, whether it was good or bad, because they knew it was a good for the player and it was better for the team. So, you know, I think having that perspective really helps is just when you're out there trying to lead, like when you're leading, you're not supposed to be a lot of people's friends. Like you have you have a mission and the the friendship piece should be second. Like you should lead in a way that's loving and kind and all those kinds of things. But you know, just try not to be their friend. Like tell them the truth because that's what they want to hear. They need, like you said, either you are humble or you're about to be. So better come from a teammate.

Introducing Guest Jared Broughton

SPEAKER_03 26:19

Yeah, that's that reminds me a lot of uh I don't know if you guys are familiar with who Tim Grover is. He's he was Michael Jordan's personal trainer for his almost his entire career, but he also worked with uh Kobe, D. Wade, and then a couple other, I mean, very notable NBA players. But um, in his book Relentless, it talks about like the different types of players on a team on a team, and he breaks it basically down in like three different characteristics. And you have your your your coolers, your closers, and your cleaners, and it just basically talks about those. And like typically the your cleaners and your closers are those type personalities that are that inherently become more of the leaders on the team and that set the tone. So I as you were talking about that, Jared, I was kind of thinking about that. And I was like, I was literally like panic searching, and then I was like, what was the breakdown of that? Because I wanted to share that because it I think it falls right in line with what you're talking about. Um just a segment over a little bit, right? We've obviously talked about um, you know, the the makeup and leadership qualities, you know, but let's let's talk about process, right? Everybody loves to use the word process, trust the process. Here's our process, right? But you know, how how does process take the traits that we've discussed and make them actionable traits?

SPEAKER_00 27:33

That's a great question, Chris. I I think when it comes to process, I I agree with you. It's kind of a uh a catchphrase, you know, that a lot of different programs hang their hat on is you know, trust the process, not the result. I think it's easier said than done, uh, especially in a in a sport like baseball where everything is counted. Um, you know, it's it's very it's a very difficult game like we've talked about. But I think consistency is very key in making anything actionable, uh, no matter what it is. Uh I think when it comes to process or leadership or work ethic, it's it's consistency starts with that, in my opinion, and and making that you know an actionable thing on a day in, day out basis, and and getting back to creating servant leadership within a program. I think those two things, um, you know, within the process is not making it about myself. How can I help somebody else? How can I be consistent in that? I'm not just helping others whenever things are going well. I'm not just a good teammate or a good guy when I'm three for four with a couple doubles and barrels, but can I serve others when things aren't going well? And I think that it's a consistency thing. Um, and I think that it starts with that. It is a process is something that is kind of like a slow dripping faucet for me, where the process eventually fills the tub up, but it's not over just a one-day thing. It's not a two-week thing, it's an everyday thing. And I think that that's where you know, players that that's the secret sauce, in my opinion, is baseball is an everyday game. It's can they be consistent in everything that they do on a daily basis, whether it's their routine, whether it's how good of a teammate that they are, their academics, showing up on time, all of those things. Um, I think is truly what um you know possess those traits and makes them more actionable on a day in and day out basis. Is it it all stems from consistency for me?

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Yeah, when I when I think about process, I think about parameters or systems. Like process is the way things are done here that's made us successful. And I think a lot of times, and this is just the makeup of you know, grow going through baseball at the youth age is you're around all these kids, all these coaches. There's a different way that things are done in every program, but every program has what what makes them good, has their own process, their own system. So I think when you know, when you move into a from one team to the other, you go from high school to college or team to team or company to company, like those are things that you need to think about. Like, how do I take what I learned from these other organizations, teams, businesses, and make it part of the system and the process that we have currently in this program business, X, Y, Z? So I think those are good things. Like process, I'm with you, process and development are like two buzzwords I like try not to use because they're just like overused all the time. So um let me ask you this. What um what's the biggest mistake you see players that don't follow process? When they ignore the process, what what's the what do you kind of see in players like that?

What Coaches Mean By Makeup

SPEAKER_00 30:46

I think players that kind of ignore that that consistency everyday process, I think they try to control the outcomes instead of owning their own behaviors. I I truly believe that. And I think that they they chase feedback instead of understanding what the standards are, they maybe abandon their plan too early. I know I've seen that with a lot of players where they have a good plan in place, it might not work on that particular day, and if it didn't work that day, they abandon it and they try to look for answers at other places. Um, you know, I think that process-based athletes they judge the days by the controllables, and they can stay emotionally neutral and under control. And I think that's where where players that have a process, they don't waver from things very often. They they know it works, they have confidence in it, and they have that do simple great mindset, right? It's we're gonna be really good at what we do versus being okay at a lot of things. That's one thing that I learned from Dan McDonnell, uh, head coach at Louisville, early on in my career. I remember my very first uh you know ABCA baseball convention. I've been to like 14, 15 of them now. Um, but I remember he talked about we're gonna be really good at what we emphasize. We're gonna be really good at these certain things. And I think that that's where the teams that have the most success and have process and and a systems-based approach, like you mentioned, Jeff, is that they are really good at what they do and they don't try to get just okay at everything else, they dominate what they're good at. And I think that um that's a big mistake that I see players make that kind of ignore that process, is um, you know, they they just uh the biggest thing for me is they just abandon their plan too early. And I think the best players that I've been around and the most successful teams, they know who they are, they know what makes them good, and they don't waver from either their approach or their process or whatever the case might be within the game.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

Yeah, which is hard because a lot of times we live in a society now where we want immediate results, and if we don't, we're trying to change it. So, you know, I think having the trust that that process is gonna work is huge. Not a lot of kids have the patience for that. So sometimes I look in the mirror and wish I was 20 pounds lighter, but I know that's gonna take longer than I want.

SPEAKER_03 33:15

I think for me, like, you know, when when we're talking about that as far as like the you know, staying staying on that path when they, you know, when they you know set you know, set the tone, set the path right. I think one one thing I think about a resounding word in my thought process with that is discipline, right? I feel like that that's ultimately like you see, you know, we talk about like great athletes, you know, on all spectrums of uh of sports, right? And you know, it's like the you know, the greatest ones, you know, it's like discipline, discipline, discipline, and a lot of times it is that, right? Just because, you know, I didn't feel great today, it didn't work today, you know, I didn't, you know, it it's you know, understanding that that staying consistent with that and staying on that path and staying disciplined and not just throwing it away. You know, I think you know, you see a lot, especially like my my oldest is 12, right? And you know, and his generation is worse than the generation, you know, before him, where it's such like that microwave generation where they they always expect instant success in what they do, right? It's like, you know, him he started football training and doing workouts, right? And you know, he he's been doing it for like two weeks, and he walked in the room the other day. He's like, Dad, I have abs now. And I was like, dude, you don't have abs. Like you've been doing this for two weeks. Like I've been working out since I've been working out since November, I still don't have abs. What do you mean? Like, that's not how it works. Like, you know, but but it's not you know, I agree with you. And and and I'm you know, to I kind of guess I have a two-part, you know, question with this is number one, you know, you've been doing you know, the the the recruiting consulting stuff for for the last two years, right? And but before that, you obviously were coaching. Do you think it's that whole wavering away from the plan, you know, quicker and faster? Do you see that becoming a more common trend, or has it kind of stayed the same as far as has that not really changed with athletes? Are they always been like that? Or do you have you noticed like with these younger generations, are people quicker to f you know to flip to the next thing if it's not working or they're not seeing those those results fast?

SPEAKER_00 35:21

I think it's definitely uh changed, in my opinion, to where there's so many other avenues that you can take. Um, there's so many other choices that a player can make, a different summer team, a different hitting coach, a different showcase that did this one didn't work out. I got another one I can go to. I think players are much more um, you know able to do that now, or they're much more willing to just up and move to the next best thing. But we all know as coaches, um, in in our, you know, and especially in the college baseball world, um, it's a one-year roster nowadays. You know, you can't think about a roster in three, four years like you used to be able to. I think it's part of the culture of college baseball. I think it's kind of kind of the culture of youth, amateur baseball in general. Um, and back when we were coming up, you know, it it was there wasn't a million summer teams, there wasn't a million opportunities where, you know, and we were taught to to stick it through. And I've never, you know, you you don't quit something, you know, you always see it through. And I think that perseverance part of of baseball, especially as a sport, I think that's that's taught me a whole lot. I know that as a man today. And I wish more players um, you know, practiced that perseverance and seeing things through more than just up and trying to find the next best, easiest path of least resistance.

SPEAKER_03 36:41

Yeah. Well, you know, and I feel like hopefully I'm not about to offend anybody saying this, but I mean, like, it's like you see like that with like with health and fitness this day and age too, right? Like nobody, nobody wants to put forth the hard work and effort uh as far as losing weight, right? Like there's all these like fast, quick, you know, instant result processes. And it's like everybody wants to take the easy route, right? Nobody wants to go into the gym and put the blood, you know, sweat and tears into actually getting in shape. It's you know, hey, I lost, you know, 50 pounds. Oh, how'd you do it? You know, well, this magic process, that's what we'll say, as far as you know, we won't dive too deep into that so we don't offend too many people. But you know, but it but it's that, right? I mean, you you it's the parents are setting the same example, right? No, you know, nobody's teaching their kids, dude, put your nose down onto the grindstone and and work at it, right? Stay consistent with that and and and understand that like results aren't always instantaneous, you know. I mean, I think about you know, one of my good buddies, his son's on the middle school basketball team, right? And you know, he's this you know, got cut his first year. Uh in the the way he's a private school, so it's fifth through eighth grade as far as the middle school team, right? Got cut the first year, left the next two years, sat the bench, barely played, you know, and then this year, his eighth-grade year, starting point guard, you know, and you know, won the championship the other night, right, for his team. And, you know, I think about that, like the process of that. And I remember having tons of conversations with my buddy about that, where he was frustrated and an upset, and you know, he's feeling it through his kid because he's like, he didn't even play. And, you know, and I'm like, dude, it trust the process. You know what I mean? Tell him to be a student of the of the team, tell him to be a student of the game, you know, be contribute where you can contribute and understand that. And, you know, it's just it was it was such a cool moment, you know, seeing that that they've won the championship and that he was a starting point guard. And I'm like, man, all those years of could have gone to another school, could have found a different program, could have gone somewhere else and and and just stayed consistent with it. It's it's such a you know, such confirmation that if you are willing to stay in it and and stay consistent and put forth the work, the results will come. Um let's uh let's let's put a let's put a big bow on everything that we've talked about and and kind of tie everything in together, right? We've talked about makeup, we've talked about leadership, we've talked about process, you know putting it all together, you know, how how do you put those together to create a you know winning mindset for an athlete?

Handling Failure With Real Confidence

SPEAKER_00 39:07

Yeah, I think when it comes to makeup, leadership, process, like we've been talking about, I think makeup is who you are. I think leadership is how that shows up for others, and I think process is how you go to work every day. And I think that winning players and winning programs, they show up to the ballpark every day with those three things on the on their back, every day. And that winning mind that winning mindset starts with emotional control, you know, process. I think it removes the fear that a player might have because you know, effort has you know a good direction now. Now my effort that I'm putting in is is in the right direction. And I think leadership can turn individual discipline, a word that you used earlier, into what is the team culture. You know, culture is another kind of buzzword that that programs use. And I think that these three things, you know, the the makeup, the leadership, and the process that you have with your players, I think that those are the things that drive team culture in the right uh in the right, you know, way. And I think ultimately from a coach's perspective, those three words fall under one word for me, and that word is trust. You have to be able to trust your players. And I think when a player has makeup and it has leadership skills and he sticks to the process, that allows me from the coaching side to trust that player. And once you trust the player, I think that's how you can get the most out of them for sure.

SPEAKER_03 40:37

I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna ask you a bonus question about this. You know, we we're because we're because we're really pushing and and and have really given a lot of great advice to athletes, but you said trust, and I and I was thinking about this. What's your advice, right? You know, to a coach? How does a coach show a player that they have trust in that athlete?

SPEAKER_00 41:00

Well, I think that the the player has to trust you first. So I think it it it starts with getting to know that player on a personal level. I think you know, it goes back to the old John Wooden, you know, they don't care what you know until they know that you care. And I truly believe, I truly believe that players of today's day and age, you have to, you know, some people would say coddle. I I think it's more of you have to have a personal relationship with them because their entire lives they have been told to to get close with adults, and adults have done a lot of things for them and have been very influential in their lives. I remember when I was 16 and I got a car, my parents stopped driving me to games. And nowadays, any 18-year-old kid, their mom and dad still drives them to the game. Um, there's very few kids that drive themselves around, they're less independent now than they were in the past. And uh I think that's where that stems from for me is that trust that being able to trust your players, I think they have to trust you first. And once they trust you and they know that you have their best interest in mind and that you are going to do right by them and you are going to respect them as young men, and not just it's not a transactional relationship and more of a transformational relationship, I think that's where you got something as the coach for sure.

SPEAKER_01 42:21

You know what hits me there, JV, is um you know, obviously it's a it takes a lot for a coach to trust a player, just like it does a player to trust a coach. And you know, I think every coach wants to trust players because we know player-led teams are our best teams, coach-led teams aren't gonna achieve as much. Um so you know, building off that a little bit, what um what do you think um if a player is missing any of these three makeup process leadership, um, do you think that affects them? Um can they be successful? Like what what are your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_00 43:02

Well, I I think I I I've noticed a lot of players that have had success that maybe don't have all three of these um traits, but I think it's uh it's not a lasting success. I think players can have short-term success by lacking some of these traits. Um and and they can have short-term success just because they're very talented. And you know, you can get away with some certain things makeup-wise, and if you're just over-talented. But I think that that's short-term success more times than not. And I think um, you know, players that lack one of those areas they tend to underachieve in the long run. And I think that teams that have are missing these traits, the teams end up, you know, kind of underachieving on on based on their talent level and how well they should do when it comes to wins and losses. But I think on the flip side, the teams That do have players that possess these traits, I think those are what championship teams look like. And teams that, you know, you look at a team, they're not, you know, they're not over talented, um, but they they they just win. And I think that the traits that the makeup, the leadership, the process driven uh ability that that tends to help players overachieve in the long run. Versus I think short-term success is is so you can get away with it, but when push comes to shove, I think players that lack those three traits, I think those guys will end up getting you beat at some point. Versus having those a bunch of players that have those traits, I think that you can go to war. I always used to ask myself, am I okay with losing with this group of players? And when I looked at it that way, it it completely took out the wins and losses for me. That if I was okay with the players that we had, and I was okay if we lost with these players, I feel like that was a successful team culture and a successful group of players that was all doing the right things. And, you know, it it's one thing to win with guys that you don't like being around. I don't think it's as sweet as winning with guys that you love being around. And I think as the coach, um, you know, I always tried to look at it as, you know, number one, I don't put myself worth on 18 to 23 year olds to start. But number two, I think if you if you're okay with losing with these guys, I think you you got something, in my opinion. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:30

I love that that mindset with it. Um looking back on your coaching career and now advising for you, what what's the single most important mindset shift that you've seen in players who succeed?

Humility And Thermostat Leaders

SPEAKER_00 45:45

Well, Chris, I think it it goes back to what we touched on before a little bit is uh shifting their focus from themselves and their own successes to other successes and team success overall. I think selfish players get you beat. I think selfless players create the glue that creates that cohesion that we're looking for. And I think servant leadership, you know, people use the word mudita, which is you know the genuine joy for someone else's success or happiness. And that's without any comparison, any jealousy, any ego involved. It's not just a you know, good for him, you know, kind of feeling. It's more of, man, I'm glad that happened for them. Even though it didn't happen to me, I'm really genuinely happy, happy for that individual that he did well, even if I am competing against that said player for playing time or whatever the case might be. So when they start to think about others and care about others more than they care about themselves, I think that that is the single most important mindset shift that a player can have that can unlock some incredible potential, and it just gives them more joy to play the game. And we all know that players that love to play and guys that love to train, those are the guys that are gonna, you know, be the glue that that creates the cohesion that you're looking for uh in the team for sure. So I think that's the number one thing is just that going from selfish to selfless and really trying to serve others. And I think that when you have a group of players that can do that, um, you know, I think that's super, super important. Um, you know, I know I I I heard coaches talk over the years and certain speeches, and you know, having players clean the bathroom in the in the in the locker room, or you know, cleaning somebody else's cleats before the game, things like that, uh finding ways to build that into a team culture and team program. I I think that that goes a super long way uh for the success of the program for sure.

SPEAKER_03 47:45

Yeah, uh go ahead, Chris. Jeff, are you there or your screen disappeared? I mean, I can't see it.

SPEAKER_01 47:51

I don't know where I'm I'm here, but I don't know where I went. So okay, cool.

SPEAKER_03 47:55

As long as you need Jared, I want to say one thing and then Jeff, I'll let you pick it up and run with it. Uh everything that you just said, that's literally uh that was my whole football team mantra this year was was our our our team is a wolf pack, but it was it was pack over pride, and it was teaching them that that selfless leadership, like you're not always gonna do the things you want, right? You know, you're you're not always gonna be a ball handler, you know, in in relation. And I'm obviously relating all this to football, but but teaching them that like the success of a team is based off of those those selfless guys. So I that's you know, I'm I'm absolutely I'm 100% on board with you on that as far as as far as teaching that and and having care, you know, having characteristics like that in athletes.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

Yeah, and where I go with that, Jared, is you know, a lot of times players don't realize they're in a crossroads when they're in a crossroads. Like they're in a they're in a moment where they got to make a decision. Do I do what's best or what's easiest? And I think if you choose what's best, it's gonna benefit the team. So um let's do this, Jared. Let's let's switch um let's switch gears a little bit and talk about full count advisors. Um I think there's a lot um of you know, not only knowledge you can bring to the recruiting process for baseball, but for you know, just mindset in general for any kid going through that process. So um, you know, hearing what you said about a mindset set shift makes it clear that preparation off the field is just as important as on the field. How does what you do with the recruiting service um with your coaching background help players put this into action?

SPEAKER_00 49:34

Absolutely. Well, I mean, I'll I'll use kind of some of the words that we've been using this whole time is that makeup, leadership, process. Those three things that are a lot of the why of why I created full count advisors in this recruiting service, where you know, recruiting isn't all about talent. A lot of times recruiting is about risk. And I think that when when you have someone in your corner that understands makeup, what that means to coaches, I think it creates a trustworthy service where, you know, I know what I'm selling, I know these players on a personal, you know, I know their put their families and then in the player on a personal level to where I get to see those makeup, you know, aspects, those onion, that onion of of what a player is, peeling off some of those layers, being a storyteller. I think that's where makeup comes involved in and what I'm doing on the recruiting service side. I I think with leadership, I I think it comes with you know actually getting out and seeing players see see them play in person. All 100 players that I've had in my recruiting service, I have personally gotten in the car, gotten on a plane, and seen them play with my own two eyes, and have scouted them as if I was scouting them myself as a college coach. So I think showing that leadership, being present in the moment with those players, I think is super important and putting all of this into action. And with the process, I think that a lot of players, I think that they miss the boat because they they have random effort in this process, I think, sometimes. They they either overshoot their their you know their skis a little bit, they they go you know too high of a level, or it's just kind of random, there's really no direction in it. And that's where the process comes for me in this whole thing is reverse engineer this thing. Let's start with the kid, start with the family, let's figure out what we're selling here first. And then from there, now that we have, you know, now that we know we're selling, now we use, you know, the network and the reputation that that we've built with full count advisors. And you know, now we have something that's gonna be unmatched out there that you can find anywhere else. It's that person ability, it's the you know, the leadership aspect of it, having a true process and a roadmap that works. That that's what I really try to hang my hat on with my recruiting service, and that's why I think it truly is a transformational recruiting service versus you know, just your database, collect your data, blast it out there to as many people as possible, see what sticks kind of thing. I think that comes across as spam, and I try to be the complete opposite of that, somebody that's that's truly transformational in these young people's lives, and try to help them maximize their opportunities that way.

SPEAKER_03 52:29

That's solid. Um, Jared, so my my son is is 12, so he's still got all the way before we have to consider worrying about recruiting and all that, you know, if that's the path he decides to go.

SPEAKER_01 52:42

He should probably start now.

SPEAKER_03 52:44

That's true. Probably at this day at this point. So um but but as far as that goes, right, for for the young athletes who listen, you know, for their parents, you know, you know, what's one tip that you've always tried to give to somebody to help them stand out to college coaches?

Teaching Leadership To Talented Players

SPEAKER_00 53:02

Well, I think that coaches at their core of recruiting, they they ask themselves this question can this player help us win? And can we trust this player in our program? I think that's the the at the at the end of the day, that's the question that coaches are trying to answer what when they're deciding on whether or not they're going to go after a player and actively recruit them. So I think coaches recruit talent. They don't necessarily recruit effort. You know, there's a lot of parents and players out there that think, well, my son's just, you know, he gives so much effort and this and that or the other, where I think that only takes you so far. You got to have a talent base first. That's what's gonna initially get a coach's, you know, attention, if you will. But after the talent, what is there? You know, there's that's where the makeup piece comes in. I think coaches just don't, they don't just watch what you do, it's how consistently can you do it. I think that's the other thing that players and parents need to understand is if I can do one thing that sticks out, whether it's tools, metrics, hit a ball 100 miles an hour, throw 90, whatever the case might be, yes, that is attractive, but it's not what can this kid do, it's how consistently can he do it. Yeah, you know, how consistently can he barrel lift the ball and batting practice? How consistently does he make the routine play? How consistent is his mindset and his energy in the course of the game? I think that effort, relentless effort, love for the game, all of those things are super easy to see as coaches. It jumps off the page, just as much as it jumps off the page with players that have that have talent and have tools. And I think that body language is a big deal. That's another thing that sticks out for me uh in terms of giving them how to stand out. You know, Monty Lee, my old my head coach at Clemston, who I worked for, it's now the associate head coach of South Carolina. He used to tell our guys that body language screams, it doesn't whisper. You know, and I always used to love that that that term. And it's definitely something that I think players need to understand that you know your body's a billboard. Your body language is screams, it doesn't whisper. And uh, you know, that coachability part part of things, um, you know, eye contact, you know, uh being able to make adjustments, asking questions, but at the right time. Um it again, it goes back to makeup, leadership process. It all goes back to you know, full circle and what we're talking about. And I think that those types of things is truly um, you know, one tip that I always try to give players in this process to help them stand out because there is a lot of low-hanging fruit when it comes to recruiting, and it's the players that you know are uber talented and have all the tools in the world, they don't need to worry about the low-hanging fruit as much. You know, they're they're they're putting out seeds and their their plants are growing, but it's the players that are on the fringe that then take advantage of the low-hanging fruit. I think that's what truly can make a difference in this whole recruiting process and make you more attractive than the other player that's equal in ability, but now your makeup is starting to show on a daily basis. So that's what I try to do in portrayed of my players that I scout and that I represent. Because at the end of the day, it's my my reputation's on the line too. You know, I I need to be able to call coaches, say, hey, you know, I got a guy for you, and I got to know in and out what that player can and can't do. And again, it's about risk. You know, I don't want I want to eliminate some risk for these coaches that are you know actively recruiting the players that I'm working with on a day-to-day basis.

SPEAKER_01 56:35

You know, one thing that sticks out to me about that little segment that you just talked about is not much of that takes physical talent. Body language, no effort, you know, eye contact, no effort. So a lot of the things that are gonna separate you from one player to the next um are those quote unquote intangibles. So, you know, ability will open the door, the rest of those will get you through the door, um, catching some some traction in the recruiting process or really in the business world with anything, because you know, once you get to college and in the professional world, a lot of people are the same. Resumes, they're different, but they're all the same in and of themselves. So you have to find a way to be to stand out. And a lot of those things um don't take much, they just take a little bit of effort. So um, let's do this. Let's wrap with this question. Um, looking back on your you know, coaching career, you know, where you're at in your advising career right now, what is one lesson about makeup process leadership that you wish every player understood before they stepped on the field?

SPEAKER_00 57:41

Well, Jeff, that's a great question. Uh, looking back on my career, and I've touched on this a little bit already, but you know, baseball is an individual game played inside of a team environment, but at the same time, you can't win by yourself in baseball. It's unlike any other sport. So I think baseball, however, can create selfishness because there's so many individual battles within the team aspect, but it can also create energy vampires very quickly, where when things aren't going well, they can take the air out of the room. Baseball, it takes zero prisoners, it is the hardest game that there possibly is. You know, one lesson and one you know thing that I wish all of the players, you know, would would be able to learn, and I think that it pay off dividends, is being able to play one pitch at a time. I think that baseball, it's a three and a half hour game, only about eight minutes of the time there's actually anything going on. So there's a lot of time for you know negative thoughts to creep in there. There's negative, you know, there's things that have gone wrong, there's things that can help your mind wander. And I think that the best players can compartmentalize, can chunk it down to one pitch at a time, competing every pitch, being present, being in the moment, being great where your feet are right now, present in the moment. I I think that's that's the secret sauce, guys. It really is. And I think that when players figure that out, I think it takes a lot of pressure off themselves. I think that they can play with more joy. It's much easier for me to say, hey, I need you to, I need eight minutes of your best concentration over the course of this day versus over a doubleheader, hey, I need seven hours of your locked-in, you know, concentration. That's hard for anybody to do. We we've all been at coaching um, you know, things, showcases that last all day. It's impossible to stay locked in for that long. And if you can, if you can chunk it up and say, hey, I just need you to play 150 pitches today on defense and be on time, be present, be in the moment for all 150 of those pitches. And then when we're on offense, there's gonna be 150 pitches that we're gonna have to be locked in for. And it's only gonna be about eight minutes. It might take four hours for us to do this, but that eight minutes of your conversation of your concentration, that's what we need from you today. And I think that again, it's chunking it down to something that's that they can touch, they can feel, and chunking it down to one pitch at a time. I think that the best teams, the best players that I've been around, they all know how to do that. And the earlier that a player can figure that out, the better their career is gonna be, and the less heartache that the game of baseball is gonna pour onto that player's heart because it is so hard. It's such a difficult game. You can go for four, do everything right, and go for four. And it's unlike any other game. The defense starts with the ball, it's the only sport that's like that. It's it's it's you know, controlling the controllables, process, you know, having the right makeup, all the things that we've talked about already.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:47

Well, they must have not taught math at Dayton because we asked for one.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:54

Yeah. I uh I I I I I have nothing to follow up about that. I feel like anything that I add to that is just gonna be absolutely insubstantial, just what Jared just said. That's that's solid, man. Um, Jared, I I appreciate you being on um so much wisdom. That's it's it's my favorite thing to do after you know we record these. I get to sit back and listen to it all over again and kind of start the editing, and it's like I'll hear something that I didn't even hear while we're in the process of the interview, and it's like, oh, that's good. I need to write that down too. But there's so much to unpack in this, and I I appreciate everything that you said and and all of your wisdom and insight. Um, I don't feel like we hit on this too much, but where can people find you? How do people get a hold of you? How can we get in contact with you? If somebody listens to this and they're, you know, their son's a you know, sophomore junior in high school, and they're kind of starting that process of you know looking at the next level. How do they get a hold of you?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:54

That's a great question. Um, you know, the the biggest social media uh outlet that I use is Twitter. Um, Twitter, I have a very good presence on there. I I follow a ton of coaches, have a lot of players that use Twitter within my organization to um you know help promote themselves, and I try to promote my players through that. So Twitter number one is my social media outlet that I use a lot. Um my my handle is at coach J B, uh which is J A Y B E E. Um, so you guys can find me on there. I also have a website, it's www.fullcount advisors.com. Um, I I I you know have a consultation call on there that any player or parent that's looking for one-on-one guidance can set up a free consultation with me through my website. Um, they can sign up for a time that works for them. I'd be happy to you know evaluate them uh you know remotely, go out and see them, give them an honest assessment of where whether or not I think they can play college baseball. Um, and and that's kind of my two places where my presence um you know is is found the most. It's definitely on Twitter. Um I follow all sorts of people, um, can definitely find me on there, uh, in and then also my website. I also run camps uh for CBG baseball camps, uh, which is you know, we hold showcases across the country, and uh I run the showcases for that. So, you know, I I also do you know seminars and things like that. Um, you know, I'll throw BP at prospects, you know, showcases every once in a while. But I'll I'm always around um, you know, in in just different avenues for baseball. And uh, you know, those are just the best ways, Chris, to to find me, if you will. Awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:38

You can also catch JB and your your local creek, you know, fly fishing. You can you can find them more places than just online. So um JB, hey, I really appreciate you coming on. Um a lot of good, a lot of good info in here for you know listeners to take away. So um we'll link all your stuff in our show notes and stuff like that so people know where to find you. But for sure. Um we appreciate you coming on and talking shop a little bit and um hearing a little bit about your winning mindset.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:09

I appreciate it, Jeff. Chris, thanks for having me on. And uh, you know, just wish everybody best of luck as you know seasons are starting up this spring, and you know, the players and parents listening out there just hopefully they could take a couple things from this and import it into their daily lives and you know dominate the the process uh of uh you know being a baseball player. So really appreciate you guys, and uh, you know, just can't thank you guys enough for including me.

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SPEAKER_03 1:04:34

Absolutely. We appreciate your time. Uh I don't know about you, but I am even more so ready for baseball season after having that conversation with him. That was solid.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:57

Every season's baseball season at my house, so we're always ready here.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:00

There you go. There you go. There you go. Um let's talk takeaways. Let's talk about, you know, some of some key takeaways that that you and I, you know, you know, you and I kind of took away from this. And obviously, you know, what I love about editing this whole thing is kind of what I shared with Jared is I listened to it and I learned something new all over again that I didn't pay attention to when he said it in that moment. But um, you know, one of the big things that stood out to me was was the was the high makeup, low maintenance characteristic of a very successful athlete. And and I think about like players that I've coached and you know, kind of look at it through that lens, and I'm like, dude, that's spot on as far as those are those are the athletes that you know have that, you know, makeup are always the ones that are usually the easiest to deal with and the easiest to coach.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:48

Yeah. I I'm I'm not heard it framed that way either. And when he was talking about that, I was thinking back over to my my time in coaching and all the you know kids I love to coach, and they were the low money. kids and then you think about it's like oh yeah why are they low maintenance because they've got high makeup um but I really love how I love how he framed that something something that stuck out to me was when we were tying everything together he um he talked about if you're missing makeup leadership or process if you're missing one of those three you're gonna experience short-term success and I think that's spot on because you know from a coaching perspective we go watch players on a weekend and that weekend can be deceiving he can ball out we don't really get to know who he is so you know the abilities open the door and we want to recruit him but we don't know what kind of kid he is so um you know versus when you're uh playing throughout a season you're with the kids from August until May you that makeup that leadership and the process that each player follows really starts to come out so um I thought that was spot on with missing one of those you can be successful but there's not going to be any sustainability in the success um if you don't you know put those three things together. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah um the the other thing it was funny that he said it this way because I think about this as like this is a conversation I have with Harlow a lot of times too about you know when we did your episode right and you're talking about you know face as far as like body language right and that was how you were coached in college was you know the what was it focus attitude composure conduct and effort conduct that's what it is I started using that with Harlow but you know but him talking about you know body language screams it doesn't whisper and I was like dude that's that's so true and that's you know that's I feel like that's always a continual thing I I have with Harlow you know especially is is is with him like having him understand that body language aspect in baseball right he gets down on himself he gets frustrated and it's like you know that's what I'll say I'll just be you know I'm like body language body language you know and trying to get him to understand I really like that because I think that that's something that kids don't understand regardless of the age of athletes I think body language is a huge thing that kids don't realize how much they're showing in that moment yeah and I think a lot of times too because I struggled with body language my I had bad body language at times like bad bad and you know you don't really think about it but your thoughts are going to dictate you know your posture and how you're staying there like you could be pissed off you're in the dugout and not playing or on the sidelines or whatever but you know how are you carrying yourself when you're standing there you can tell the kids that are mad are they at the end of the dugout? Are they by the coaches are they goofing off are they slumping slouching you know all the above so um that's one thing I struggled with um was body language and um things like that. So one of the other things when he was talking about recruiting he said um um can I win can I be happy winning and losing with these guys and you know do you like your players like when you're recruiting like you're recruiting those kids and you know they're your job it's your job to win uh but you have to be happy with those guys because you're gonna be with them for you know 10 months out of the year and you know when I was recruiting one thing Coach Burton who we had on here I don't know if he talked about in the podcast I don't remember but um he always talked uh he always harped on me when we had our recruiting meetings we need to we need to sign the nine best not the best nine and while I wanted to go out and get the best nine players that there were that I could find the best nine players don't always fix your your program and your culture the right way so you know I think there's a lot of a lot of value in you know being happy with the guys we recruit and those guys that you recruit you know they may have the talent but they may not fit what your team's looking for and you may have to pass on those kids at times. So I really loved what he said um you know about being picky and choosy when you're recruiting.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:58

Yeah oh yeah well I that's that's all I got for this one man I don't I don't want to harp too much on it. I'd rather people listen to this episode over and over again and and really take away from from Jared and not us. I feel like uh I feel like what he had to say I was like that's what that last question when he like finished I was like I don't want to say anything I don't I feel like anything I'm gonna say is going to be like you know nothing compared to what he just said. So um but I'm excited for the next episode uh you know to have uh have Jimmy not Jimmy on and uh you want to share that story real quick about who you texted today when you thought you didn't or when you thought you texted the right person?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:39

I've known I've known Jimmy for a few years now and just from recruiting and calling players and coaches in the area and I texted who I thought was Jimmy and he said I'm not Jimmy so maybe that's why I didn't get a response some of the times but um like you said I still asked Jimmy if he wanted to come on the podcast. Not so much luck with Mr. Not Jimmy but we'll have Jimmy um the head baseball coach at North Cobb Christian on here on our next episode. So looking forward to hearing and learning from a state champion head coach and one that coaches a lot of good players.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:13

Well and that's you know and obviously quite a notable program but you know one of the one of the things actually you know our friend Rebecca Dyer who was on here as well was the one who connected us with with him and one of the big things that she said was he knows how to build culture and he knows how to create culture. So I'm I'm excited to dive in and talk about you know obviously his program how you know how he's done it and how he's built it but also talk about team culture a lot in that one so um stay tuned everyone looking forward to to having him on and uh thanks again for everybody listening